2006-08-22 12:36:55, Stephan wrote:Daniel73 wrote:I have two CDs of the Peppers. 'Blood Sugar' (with 'Under the Bridge') and the previous one, 'By the Way'. I don't know if I will buy 'Stadium Arcadium', because I think Anthony Kiedis' voice isn't interesting enough to have more CDs of the Peppers.
I’ve also got a ‘Greatest Hits’ CD, with songs like ‘Under the Bridge’, ‘Otherside’ and ‘Californication’. I wouldn’t buy another Red Hot Chilli Peppers CD neither, because I think their best songs are on this Hits CD.
But if they make a new CD, I would think about buying it.
Stephan wrote:Indeed I think Kiedis’ voice gets quite boring after hearing it for 28 songs. But I really like his singing on the songs I’ve named before, especially on ‘Snow ((hey oh))’.
I think the songs I don’t like are boring because of Anthony, because he sings to monotone or without much variation.
Stephan wrote:Another thing I don’t like with the Peppers is the volume of Chad’s drumming. He is technically a good drummer, but the snare drum is often too loud. It makes me want to turn the volume up to hear the other music, but then of course the drums get louder too.
2006-10-22 22:18:44, Stephan wrote:Daniel73 wrote:John Frusciante - I Feel Love
Indeed a high falsetto. John Frusciante definitely can sing besides playing guitar.
Though I'm not sure, after hearing the songs on 'Stadium Arcadium' a couple of times, there're quite a lot on which I like Kiedis' voice too. Some songs are really ruined because of his monotone or false voice, like 'Hump De Bump', 'Torture Me', 'Readymade' and 'Storm In Your Teacup', but some are really great, I think. I really like the vocals on i.e. 'Slow Cheetah' (as well as Frusciante's acoustic guitarplay), 'Com'n Girl', '21st Century'. Also the endig of the last song on the second CD, 'Death of a Martian' is really weird, but I like it. The lyrics:
Let's bow our heads And let the trumpets blow
Our girl is gone God bless her little soul
(She's got sword in case
Tho this is not her lord incase
The one who can't afford to face
Her image is restored to grace.
Disappeared. No trace. Musky tears. Suitcase. The down turn brave
Little burncub bearcareless turnip snare
Rampages pitch color pages...
Down and out but not in Vegas.
Disembarks and disengages.
No loft. Sweet pink canary cages plummet pop dewskin fortitude
For the sniffing black noses that snort and allude
To dangling trinkets that mimic the dirt cough go drink its.
It's for you. Blue battered naval town slip kisses delivered by duck
Muscles and bottlenosed grifters arrive in time to catch the late show.
It's a beehive barrel race.
A shehive stare and chase wasted feature who tried and failed to reach her.
Embossed beneath a box in the closet that's lost.
The kind that you find when you mind your own mysteries.
Shiv sister to the quickness before it blisters into the newmorning milk blanket.
Your ilk is funny to the turnstyle touch bunny who's bouquet set a course for bloom without decay.
Get you broom and sweep the echoes of yesternights fallen freckles... away...)
Stephan wrote:Daniel73 wrote:It's a crime U2 hasn't released this song on CD. (Or did they?) It's one of the U2 songs I like the most.
They haven’t released ‘Celebration’ on CD. Maybe they will someday. November next month U2 will release a new ‘Best of’ CD with 16 older songs and two new ones (cover of ‘The Saints are Coming’ by the Skids and a new song called ‘Window on the Sky’). I hope they’ll put unknown songs such as ‘a Celebration’ on it, because I don’t really know a lot of U2-songs which aren’t released on CD’s.
I don’t really know why they haven’t released this song on CD. All I’ve read about it was something in a book about the meaning of U2’s lyrics. I believe Bono was accused of facistic ideas on base of the part: ‘I believe in third world war, I believe in the atomic bomb’. He didn’t meant it that way. He replied by saying that people should read the more important following line ‘But they won’t overpower me’.
Stephan wrote:Daniel73 wrote:A mixing-desk has multiple connections and faders. For example, you can plug in a guitar and one or a microphone at the same time. Or more more microphones and more guitars, depending on what you choose.
Here's an example, a cheap one: Tapco MIX 60
http://feedback.nl/?id=55&b=MIX60
I guess there should be mixers with USB-possibilities as well?
I didn’t knew mixing-desks could be so unexpensive. I haven’t seen them below 200 euros before.
It’s something to keep in mind. It would be really cool to play life with others, or play guitar and sing at the same time.
Stephan wrote:Daniel73 wrote:Music is not only expressing yourself, but also being capable to do it. The better you can play, by starting simple, the more you can express.
On the other hand, simplicity does not garantuees good expression. Some songs by artists like Frans Bauer and Jan Smit are uncomplicated, but still make me feel they do not mean what they sing. It seems fake.
But personally I indeed often miss the main goal of music or the main-theme of the song, because I want to much, or because I make the song with the wrong intentions. I’m working a lot on songwriting right now, to really make songs that are me.
Stephan wrote:Daniel73 wrote:Playing with a metronome can be difficult in the beginning, because the metropnome is the boss and it needs discipline to keep in tempo and rhythm. A metronome may sound irritating in the beginning, but the better you play along the less you hear it.
I'm using a Korg MA-30. About 25 Euro's. Since using this metronome I'm very into practicing.
I can use my fathers metrome which he uses when he drums. And when I play guitar on Cubase I always use a metrome too. But I do need to work on my timing, it’s often unstraight, which damages the song.Daniel73 wrote:I suggest you try some easy lesson book how to play guitar,
I’ve taken my first guitarlessons last weeks, and I’ve learned a lot of things that I never really was sure about. Like how play a chordprogression (up or down stroking), and how to grab the chords in the right way.
Since the last lesson I’m learning to play different kinds of songs and while doing so I’ll learn more and more things. The first song was ‘Californication’, from which especially the solo was interesting, because I’m very bad in figuring out choruses or in playing them.
Here’s an attempt:
http://media.putfile.com/Californicationsol
Stephan wrote:Daniel73 wrote:Have you tried recording the same guitar part twice, for example? As if two guitar players are playing exactly the same? Then you get rich sound. ABBA used that method. In some songs, they recorded parts twice.
I hear it sometimes in songs and it sounds very cool. A lot of songs on ‘Stadium Arcadium’ have guitars from different sides, and ther’s also one Gorillaz-song (5/4) which starts with one overdriven guitar on the left and is joined by another one on the right.
I haven’t really expirimentated a lot with that yet.
Stephan wrote:Daniel73 wrote:You have interesting word-choices and impressions.
The problem is that I’ve got the feeling a lot of songs I write aren’t actually honest, or they don’t really reflect my feelings enough. I really need to work on that. Maybe by first writing the main idea of a song and actually a non-rhyming story, and then make it a good flowing song.Daniel73 wrote:I suggest you try to write (imitate) a children's song, with simple couplets that have a steady pattern. That's a good lesson to write songs, as you can easily see what goes wrong and what works good.
That’s an idea. It could help me to keep a clear vision on the song I’m writing.
Stephan wrote:Daniel73 wrote:So far, my recordings won't sell. They have the best copy-protection ever: No one will ever desire to copy them. And you need a special decoder to hear what I hear from them. Mostly the recordings are intended as reminders of possibilities I've tried.
Do you have different recordings besides ‘Zovaak Zaterdag’? (‘So many times Saterday’). I’m interested.
Stephan wrote:Daniel73 wrote:The Beatles have such a song: 'Tomorrow never knows' (entirely in C, except for some C7, which is still C)
I haven’t heard that song yet, I’ll try to download it.
Stephan wrote:Daniel73 wrote:Principal question is: What is psychedelic? The word has also been used as a fashion word.
I’m definitly not an expert, but for me, psychadelic stands for unusual music, confusing, against all standard expectations, music from the sixties, most times with a lot of drugs involved.
I think ‘Vertigo’ is more Rock, though kind of confusing too. (But I think that’s U2’s intention. Vertigo appears to be about confusion in a discotheque called Vertigo.)
Stephan wrote:P.s.: I’m sorry for the late response, I’ve made it myself quite busy last weeks.
Daniel wrote:My "Daniel73"-profile turned to moderating on 15 October 2006. Since then I rather don't use that profile for discussions that have nothing to do with moderating/maintaining.
Daniel wrote:like 'Give it Away' very much, with the backward guitar solo by Frusciante, and I like Kiedis's voice in it.
Daniel wrote:Red Hot Chili Peppers - Give It Away
Daniel wrote:Also in general, I think it would be nice if artists and groups would release instrumental versions of their records, without vocals.
Danmiel73 wrote:Now you say, that's what I dislike about Frusciante's 'Water'. The drums are not just loud, the sound itself is hulking. And cold.
In 'Give it Away' the drums are on the background, but still they are sounding too loud, overuling the warm sound of the bass and the guitars.
Daniel wrote:[‘Death of a Martian’ end lyrics] To be honest, I can't make much out of it. If anything.
It could be willfull ranting. Or some poetry that I don't get. (Or both.)
Daniel wrote:What will be the difference with the 2CD they released in about 1998? I doubt that a 'Best of' CD will include rare gems. On DVD there's only a compilation of videos from the 1990s, if I'm not mistaken. U2 doesn't look very fond of diving into rarities of their past.
Daniel wrote:Also missing on CD is their EP 'Boy/Girl', with the song 'Boy/Girl' and some songs later re-recorded for 'Boy'.
Here's a live performance of 'Boy/Girl':
Daniel wrote:And so history is written.
Stephan bought a mixing-desk and recorded a CD that would change music forever.
Daniel wrote:Making "songs that are me" sounds very honest, but how good do you know yourself? My experience is that when experimating writing, that I'm more honest when I try to be fake. I try to think of something that is not me, or an exaggeration, but still I end up with myself. That gives me a freedom to do whatever I can, because the result will be "me" anyway.
Daniel wrote:The fact that you like a line or a word, says something about you. (Or am I getting too hazy here, standing on my soapbox?)
Daniel wrote:Criticism on 'The Complete U2':
Daniel wrote:Compliments. I think that in essence it sounds much like Frusciante. There are some mistakes but that's just matter of practicing it further. The more control, the more timing and the more subtility. It gives more self-confidence when you know you can rely on your capacities. The more self-confidence the more you dare to do. It's an upward spiral.
Daniel wrote:Stereo effects are ways to balance sounds over two speakers, but it's not music. A decent stereo-recording might sound horrible in mono, on a radio. That's why I'm more into mono when practicing, to be sure that it is what it is.
Daniel wrote:Playing in 5/4 is something I haven't tried yet. Apart from 2/4, 3/4 and 4/4, I only understand 7/4.
Daniel wrote:Forget about reflecting your feelings and being honest here. You're a songwriter, a storyteller. Who cares about you? A lot of artists make awful records when they try to be just themselves. In stories and songs you can be a liar. That's the fun of being a creator! "I've seen the moon rising from the gutter..." blah blah blah.
Daniel wrote:Tomorrow Never Knows-The Beatles Cartoons
Daniel wrote:I see psychedelic music as a childlike approach, as in fairy tales. The wolf lives in the park and Mrs. Grapefruit has a blue umbrella. Whatever. (This weird example that I'm making up, could be a childlike obversation of a city.)
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