Don Rosa has been nominated for an Eisner Award for 'The black knight glorps again'. Following a selection of two e-mails:
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Don Rosa Eisner Nomination
UNDBKB
Thu Apr 19 05:19:52 CEST 2007
FYI
> Don Rosa has been nominated for an Eisner Award for BEST STORY OF THE YEAR.
> "The Black Knight GLORPS Again!".
> Announcement will be made Thiss week!
Barry Branvold
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Don Rosa Eisner nomination
M.J. Prior
Fri Apr 20 01:24:01 CEST 2007
As much as I like and enjoy reading Rosa's stories, I'd
regret to see him get an Eisner Award for "The Black
Knight GLORPS again!", because that's really not one of
his best stories and certainly can't stand up against "A
Matter of Some Gravity" and the Lo$-series, which were
actual Eisner Award winners.
First and foremost, the story is derivative of the earlier
story "The Black Knight", which was better than its
sequel. Secondly, the story can't stand on its own, as it
needs too much explaining about things that happened in
previous stories. I feel the narrative is bogged down by
these explanations.
Thirdly, some of the panels have artwork that really
shouldn't be allowed in comics, especially panel 10.7,
where Miss Quackfaster's hand is cropped off, where Rosa
could have let her point outwards the panel. The middle of
the panel is a big closed door, and the characters are
pushed to the edge of the screen. There should be another
way to show this situation.
Fourthly, the story reuses a Barks character, the museum
director from "The Golden Helmet", who was originally a
sterner and more rounded character, but comes off very
bland in Rosa's story, in which he has only a minor part.
Upon rereading "The Black Knight GLORPS again!" I got a
more favourable impression than I remembered having. It's
an amusing story and it works well once you know where
it's heading. Still, it can be unfavourably compared to so
many other stories that I don't think it would deserve the
Eisner Award for which it's nominated.
If any, Rosa should have the Eisner Award for Cramming the
Highest Possible Amount of Information in Twenty-Five
Pages.
Greetings,
Michiel Prior.
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More e-mails from DCML:
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:43:49 -0500
From: "deanmary"
Subject: Congrats to Don Rosa and Gemstone!
To: <dcml
The 2007 Eisner Award nominees were just announced. In the category of "Best Short Story", Don Rosa's, "The Black Knight Glorps Again" was one of the 5 nominees! So much congratulations to Don Rosa and Gemstone for this honor!
Dean Rekich
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Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:32:41 +0300
From: Kriton Kyrimis
Subject: Re: Don Rosa Eisner nomination
To: dcml
MICHIEL:
> As much as I like and enjoy reading Rosa's stories, I'd
> regret to see him get an Eisner Award for "The Black
> Knight GLORPS again!", because that's really not one of
> his best stories
To get the award, the story only needs to be better than the other five
nominated stories, not better than Don's previous stories. I would assume
that, the Eisner award being a prestigious industry award, these six stories
*are* some of the best stories published last year, even if their creators
have produced better stories in the past.
Kriton.
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"To the rational mind nothing is inexplicable--only unexplained."
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Other nominees include:
Best Short Story
- "The Black Knight Glorps Again," by Don Rosa, in Uncle Scrooge #354 (Gemstone)
- "Felix," by Gabrielle Bell, in Drawn & Quarterly Showcase 4 (Drawn & Quarterly)
- "A Frog’s Eye View," by Bill Willingham and James Jean, in Fables: 1001 Nights of Snowfall (Vertigo/DC)
- "Old Oak Trees," by Tony Cliff, in Flight 3 (Ballantine)
- "Stan Lee Meets Spider-Man," by Stan Lee, Oliver Coipel, and Mark Morales, in Stan Lee Meets Spider-Man (Marvel)
- "Willie: Portrait of a Groundskeeper," by Eric Powell, in Bart Simpsons’s Treehouse of Horror #12 (Bongo)
source: http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_eisners_main.shtml
Another e-mail from DCML:
DCML Digest, Vol 50, Issue 17 (on divers matters)
kimba1962
Mon Apr 23 01:07:44 CEST 2007
[...]
Michiel Prior wrote:
>I don't feel that Don Rosa should have an Award for
> ["The Black Knight Glorps Again"], when so many other, *better*
> stories didn't get an Award...
> "The Black Knight GLORPS again!" is nice, but not great.
> It's the only Disney story that got nominated for this
> year's Eisner Awards, which suggests that, if nothing
> else, it's this year's best Disney story. And *that* would
> suggest that this year's Disney stories simply weren't
> very great.
Given how many Rosa stories are LEFT to appear, I'd say we should all be rooting for him to win, regardless of what you may think about this particular story. He may not have many more chances.
Chris Barat
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E-mail from DCML to Gary Leach (Gemstone):
On matters
Gary Leach
Fri Apr 20 18:14:14 CEST 2007
[...]
M.J. Prior:
> If any, Rosa should have the Eisner Award for Cramming the Highest
> Possible Amount of Information in Twenty-Five Pages.
One certainly does get one's money's worth in that respect
[...]
Kriton:
> To get the award, the story only needs to be better than the other
> five
> nominated stories, not better than Don's previous stories. I would
> assume
> that, the Eisner award being a prestigious industry award, these
> six stories *are* some of the best stories published last year,
> even if their creators have produced better stories in the past.
Perfectly true, and a key point that too often gets overlooked.
Gary
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source: http://nafsk.se/pipermail/dcml/2007-April/024944.html
More:
Gemstone TPBs + Eisner thoughts
deanmary
Mon Apr 23 07:24:19 CEST 2007
[...]
As far as Don Rosa's "The Black Knight Glorps Again" getting nominated for an Eisner, I think that is great news. Whether it is among his best stories is of course a personal view with neither a right or wrong answer. Even if you do not have a high opinion of it though, I *still* think it should be thrilling news. Disney comics get *so* little attention in North America that almost *any* attention is good! And as others have pointed out, these were nominations for *one* year. As the cliché goes, I am just happy the story was nominated. smile
I have only met Don Rosa two times and thus do not know him personally. However, from what I have read him write on the Internet and in some publications, I would think that Don's win of a an Eisner for his "Life and Times of Scrooge" series will always be the highlight for him as far as awards go, at least for North America. If I am wrong Don, please correct me.
Finally, personally of course I like some of Don's stories better than others. However, even the stories I like relatively the least, I *still* love! To me, that is a kind of "batting average" that is hard to beat!
Dean Rekich
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Don Rosa Eisner nomination
M.J. Prior
Wed May 2 17:58:45 CEST 2007
I wrote in an earlier post:
> ... "A Matter of Some Gravity" and the Lo$-series, which
> were actual Eisner Award winners.
Oops! "A Matter ..." only got an Eisner nomination!
Joe Torcivia:
> And, if Don Rosa wins an Eisner for "The Black Knight
> Glorps Again", I will be happy for him
Sure, if Don Rosa wins the Eisner I'd be happy for him as
well, but ...
> If you're a fan of this stuff, I'd think you'd prefer
> the Eisner went to Rosa and/or Gemstone than having it go
> to someone else, under any circumstance!
This is sheer nonsense. It's not like these Awards are
some kind of baseball competition, where you're rooting
for either one team or the other. I must admit that I
haven't read any of the other nominated stories, but given
the fact that they ARE nominated for Best Short Story,
there's a chance that I might like some, if not all, of
the other stories as well. Thus I might be equally happy
for one of the other guys, should they win the Award.
Greetings,
Michiel Prior.
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Awards Debate
JTorci3511
Thu May 3 14:02:00 CEST 2007
To my comment below:
> If you're a fan of this stuff, I'd think you'd prefer
> the Eisner went to Rosa and/or Gemstone than having it go
> to someone else, under any circumstance!
Michiel Prior responds with the following:
>>This is sheer nonsense. It's not like these Awards are
some kind of baseball competition, where you're rooting
for either one team or the other. I must admit that I
haven't read any of the other nominated stories, but given
the fact that they ARE nominated for Best Short Story,
there's a chance that I might like some, if not all, of
the other stories as well. Thus I might be equally happy
for one of the other guys, should they win the Award.>>
First: Can't ANYONE disagree with someone's posting on the Internet without
that disagreement being branded as "sheer nonsense"?! I disagreed with
Michiel, and stated the reasons for that disagreement -- even offering a parallel
to the Oscars and animation, without denigrating his opinion. Even if I
were to privately consider his assuming the role of arbiter over the Eisner
committees and judges to be "nonsensical" -- particularly when the committee has
read all the different nominated works and he has not, it would not be my
place to state that in a public forum.
Second: As long as he brings it up, the Eisner's ARE INDEED in many ways
similar to a "baseball competition". I've attended a few, and can say that
there have been partisan groups that cheer and whoop it up for their particular
favorites as much as one might do so for Derek Jeter or David Ortiz. One
year, there was such a group "making noise" for the creator of an indie comic
called "The Three Geeks" to such an extent, that I left the awards determined
to try the book. BTW, I DID, and I liked it.
Third: Using the "Three Geeks" example. If such attention can move someone
like myself -- who is admittedly not an indie supporter -- to buy and enjoy
such a title, why wouldn't the Eisner "buzz" and notoriety have the same
effect for UNCLE SCROOGE? Thus, my statement: "If you're a fan of this stuff,
I'd think you'd prefer the Eisner went to Rosa and/or Gemstone than having it
go to someone else, under any circumstance!" Right now, Gemstone needs any
help it can get! And (again) IF YOU ARE A FAN OF THIS STUFF, you WANT to see
Rosa and Gemstone win the award over someone else -- just as I (as a Yankees
fan) would want to see Derek Jeter win the MVP over David Ortiz. If you are
NOT A FAN OF THIS STUFF, then please be as "fair and balanced" or neutral in
your opinions as you wish. That's what MAKES competition in the first place.
Fourth and Final: Michiel, if you are so adamant that Don Rosa should not
win an Eisner for this particular story -- and would rather be "fair and
balanced" as opposed to being "a fan of this stuff" (as I openly profess to be),
why don't you do everyone on this list a service and seek out and read the
stories that are competing with Don Rosa. No sarcasm is meant here -- but you
can serve as "our eyes" on the overall picture and accurately report to the
List on whether Don's entry is -- or is not -- worthy of the top prize in the
field that exists THIS year. Finally, if you respond to these comments, do
take the high road and make your point with examples (...particularly if you DO
read the competing entries) and civility. We can continue to disagree
without name calling and denigration.
Indeed, I WOULD be interested in hearing how you would stack ALL this year's
nominees for "Best Short Story", and (I'll assume) so would many members of
this list.
Joe Torcivia.
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Opinions? Has the story rightly been nominated? Should Don Rosa win this Eisner Award? Was 'The black night glorps again' really that good? Does anybody knows the other stories? How are they?