Rockerduck wrote:Spin it anyway you want, but the facts Daniel states in his e-mail are 100% true, and there's no way to refute that.
And if people see such a list of facts and examples straight out of comic books as attacks, the problem lies with thém, and not with the person who posted the list.
germund wrote:And if people see such a list of facts and examples straight out of comic books as attacks, the problem lies with thém, and not with the person who posted the list.
Correct! But at dcml it also lies with the rest of the community. It's like a war situation where a conflict between a few persons ruin everyday life for a large group of innocent people. Do have conflicts - I find disagreements basically good - but keep them away from dcml and other places where they spam the lives of people not involved. In Daniel's case, I believe the admittedly extreme moderation of his "Hourglass" message was valid - questionable yes, but valid. It was the sacrifice of free speech of *one* person on *one* forum for the sake of the entire list, with an explanation to Daniel why it was performed. If Daniel after being moderated had written to dcml that "I will put my comments on Rosa's stories and this issue on this and this webpage and continue the discussion there", that message would not have been censored.
germund wrote:Rockerduck wrote:Spin it anyway you want, but the facts Daniel states in his e-mail are 100% true, and there's no way to refute that.
I don't!
> I hope you will answer my questions, and that we can talk these matters
> over.
I haven't answered all your questions. Some of them are old stuff
we've been through before. Some of it are things I don't know anything
about. I have really no interest in "talking these matters over".
The time writing this is time I'd rather spend doing something else.
All that matters is:
This list is moderated. We decide how. You decide if you want to be a
part of it or not. Deal with it.
That is really all.
> It never occured to me that DCML maybe could be just some private club ran
> by one person who seemingly can do just anything he/she wishes.
Not a club at all, but a mailing list, and of course I could do what I
wanted, and now NAFS(k) can do whatever it wants.
If you think everything about DCML is so bad I don't understand why
you don't just leave it. I'm almost afraid to write this, because
maybe you will think that means I'm trying to get you off the list,
or that I am forbidding you to be on the list or any such nonsense.
> Why did you announce you'd quit with DCML? Two years later you're still in
> charge.
I had hoped I could leave it totally, but it turned out I had to agree
to be one of the moderators to get enough support from the rest of the
board so that the list could be continued at all.
I want to do this as little as possible. That also means I want to use
as little time as possible writing mails like this.
I already answered that. I don't know such an address. The University
is a big place.
There are like 6,000 people working here and around 40,000 students. Of course
there must be contact information on the web page of the university.
If you need that and can't find it the web pages are bad and you could
write the webmaster and ask why it's not to be found perhaps.
> Is Anders Hallberg your superior? Do I need to contact him for inquiries
> about the university's policy?
He is the Rector Magnificus of the whole university. I'm sure he
doesn't have time to correspond with individuals like that.
I'm not really sure about what you are after anyway. Are you trying to
get me in trouble for starting a mailing list at the university in
1992? Or are you trying to get me in trouble for using a mailing
address @....uu.se when writing to you about the NAFS(k) list
recently?
None of this is anything out of the ordinary. But why should I tell
you that again? Evidently you didn't believe me the last time.
Your request to the DCML mailing list
Posting of your message titled "Very OT: From a Virginia Tech
alumnus"
has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the
following reason for rejecting your request:
"Both weapon laws and the Iraq war are too controversial (and
off-topic) topics for this mailing list, so you will have to send that
reply personally instead.
/Per for NAFS(k) "
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