Rockerduck wrote:In 'A cold bargain', the villain from Brutopia is most likely a caricature of Nikita Krushchev, at that time the leader of the Soviet Union. Brutopia is also mentioned in 'The swamp of no return'. That Barks made references to it in those stories, doesn't mean he put them in each story. To me, it's just plain silly to see a Cold War theme in every story featuring Neighbour Jones. It's just a neigbour-fight, which happened often in Barks' early stories.
Rockerduck wrote:Flintheart is so totally different from those other rivals of Scrooge. Flintheart could be seen a bit as Scrooge's evil twin-brother. The two of them look alike so much, it's almost scary! Flintheart is about the same age as Scrooge, is almost as rich as Scrooge, their fortunes differ maybe only a few pennies, they both have a money-bin, look alike (glasses, spats) and earned every penny themselves. Only Flintheart didn't make it square. That's why his character is interesting to me.
Egg wrote:Rockerduck wrote:In 'A cold bargain', the villain from Brutopia is most likely a caricature of Nikita Krushchev, at that time the leader of the Soviet Union. Brutopia is also mentioned in 'The swamp of no return'. That Barks made references to it in those stories, doesn't mean he put them in each story. To me, it's just plain silly to see a Cold War theme in every story featuring Neighbour Jones. It's just a neigbour-fight, which happened often in Barks' early stories.
Doctor Witchie Britchie knows American history better than you, I guess.
Doctor Witchie Britchie wrote:Oh ho, I know where the baboon shaper line comes from now--the Donald and Neighbor Jones story where the nephews are trying to get Donald and Jones to settle their differences by non-violent means (Barks' spoof of the attempts to dialogue with the Communists during the Cold War? Who knows?) I can't recall the title, though. Drat!
Egg wrote:Could it be the story 'Unfriendly Enemies', with the fighting parrots?
Rockerduck wrote:Egg wrote:Doctor Witchie Britchie knows American history better than you, I guess.
What makes you think that? What do you know about my knowledge about American history? And even *if* the Doc knows more about it than me, what does that got to do with reading deeper meanings in stories that aren't there?
Rockerduck wrote:If I make a story about a man who's trying to become friends with his former enemies, does that mean it's a spoof on George Bush's politics to get a better relationships with the Europeans who -rightfully- let him down when the Iraq war started?
Rockerduck wrote:Of course not! Just like the Smurfs aren't communists, because they have a single bearded leader with red clothes, who know no money and are all equal.
Paralyzed Buffalo wrote:Egg wrote:P.B. not answering Barks-questions?
Me say that's bull, bull, and bull once more.
Paralyzed Buffalo wrote:Egg wrote:- "Bringum paleface to ceremonial rock! Indian must haveum vengeance!"
- "Me gottum medicine ready!"
- "Me call upon totems of our long-gone ancestors to witness what goin' to happen!"
(Which story? All quotes are from the same one.)
Question is insult for Paralyzed Buffalo. Egg thinks me stupid?
Paralyzed Buffalo wrote:This typical Indian talk-talk is from story with giant steam-organ Donald is trying to sell in the north. Is one of best Barks stories I know. With heremite in grotto who buys steam-organ from nephews. Donald messing things up with "make-up-box" which he exchanged with nephews for sample of organ.
Doctor Witchie Britchie wrote:Incidentally, it's easy to connect the Scotch Highlander McDucks to the Persian King Scrooge-Shah, despite what Rosa says in the remarks quoted by Egg above. There is evidence that the Gaelic Highlanders originally hailed from Miletus, on the Turkish penninsula (the Irish Gaels, ancestors of the Scotch Gaels, have always been known as Milesians). The Persian rulers of Bagdad (or Sagbad) live in the middle east, not far from Turkey. The Persians, like the ancient Milesians, were Indo-European peoples. What is more likely than that King Scrooge-Shah and his kin fled Sagbad after the sack by the Mongolduks and sought refuge with fellow Indo-Europeans in Miletus. After several generations, the royal Sagbadian line became blended with the Milesian nobility, and descendants of Scrooge-Shah sailed to Ireland with Eber and Eremon, the leaders of the great Milesian invasion. Later, the McDucks, a clan partly descended from Scrooge-Shah, crossed over to Scotland with many other Milesian families, and thus became a powerful Highland clan. Simple, eh?
Doctor Witchie Britchie wrote:The reason I see "Unfriendly Enemies" as a possible spoof on the Cold War-era "summit meetings" is because it falls in Barks' later period, when he had by and large stopped doing the Donald/Jones neighbor battle stories.
Doctor Witchie Britchie wrote:Huey, Dewey, and Louie, in their attempts to create "pipelines to peace" and the like sounds to me very like the Americans who were arguing that the US and Russia could peacefully co-exist at the time the story was written. I think that here Barks was using an old theme (Donald vs. Jones in slapstick battle) to make some comments on a new issue. I certainly don't see the Cold War theme in earlier Donald/Jones stories.
Doctor Witchie Britchie wrote:Incidentally, it's easy to connect the Scotch Highlander McDucks to the Persian King Scrooge-Shah, despite what Rosa says in the remarks quoted by Egg above.
Cura de Coco wrote:Doctor Witchie Britchie wrote:Incidentally, it's easy to connect the Scotch Highlander McDucks to the Persian King Scrooge-Shah, despite what Rosa says in the remarks quoted by Egg above. There is evidence that the Gaelic Highlanders originally hailed from Miletus, on the Turkish penninsula (the Irish Gaels, ancestors of the Scotch Gaels, have always been known as Milesians). The Persian rulers of Bagdad (or Sagbad) live in the middle east, not far from Turkey. The Persians, like the ancient Milesians, were Indo-European peoples. What is more likely than that King Scrooge-Shah and his kin fled Sagbad after the sack by the Mongolduks and sought refuge with fellow Indo-Europeans in Miletus. After several generations, the royal Sagbadian line became blended with the Milesian nobility, and descendants of Scrooge-Shah sailed to Ireland with Eber and Eremon, the leaders of the great Milesian invasion. Later, the McDucks, a clan partly descended from Scrooge-Shah, crossed over to Scotland with many other Milesian families, and thus became a powerful Highland clan. Simple, eh?
You tellin' me?..
Robb_K wrote:In any case, Sagbad isn't Bagdad, The Mongol-Ducks weren't The Mongols. The comic-book world is NOT the real World, so why do we need to justify the possibility that Scrooge could be directly related to the ancient kings of a fictitious country or city?
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