Toonder Studio and Carol Voges

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Postby Robb_K » Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:22 pm

I think his Duck work is substandard, off model and uninspired. The Crows look okay. His non-Duck Disney work is in the lower half of Disney comics artwork, but no worse than many of them.
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Postby Rockerduck » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:17 am

Egg wrote:
Rockerduck wrote:That's all explanation needed. ;)

What a lame answer.

That's because you ask lame questions.
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Postby Egg » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:50 am

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Comic book art by Toonder Studio, for the Dutch Donald Duck weekly.

http://www.lambiek.net/aanvang/1945toonderstudio.htm#klein
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Postby Egg » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:05 am

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I think the Toonder Studio stories are well-written. They contain nice situations and fresh characters.

Source of pictures:
http://inducks.org/dd50/xned1965.html
Contains Dutch comments by scenarist Patty Klein, who worked for the Toonder Studio's. Hiawatha and the Bad Wolf. The page shows an example of a typed script.
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Postby Robb_K » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:52 am

Egg wrote:http://inducks.org/dd50/pics/nl_dd1967_21d_001.jpg
http://inducks.org/dd50/pics/nl_dd1968_30d_001.jpg
I think the Toonder Studio stories are well-written. They contain nice situations and fresh characters.

Source of pictures:
http://inducks.org/dd50/xned1965.html
Contains Dutch comments by scenarist Patty Klein, who worked for the Toonder Studio's. Hiawatha and the Bad Wolf. The page shows an example of a typed script.

Again, they are no worse than a lot of the Disney Studios' S-coded stories, and a lot of Western Publishing's run-of-the-mill artists and writers.
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Postby Egg » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:18 pm

Robb_K wrote:Again, they are no worse than a lot of the Disney Studios' S-coded stories, and a lot of Western Publishing's run-of-the-mill artists and writers.

No worse? Run-off-the-mill? Marten Toonder is a Dutch legend with a high quality standard. I hereby want to complain about the Toonder-bashers, the Hubbard-bashers and the Voges-bashers. They're a radical minority!
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Postby Ridder ter Geit » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:19 pm

Marten Toonder indeed is one of the greatest dutch cartoonists. Mostly because of his Tom Poes-series.
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Postby Robb_K » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:51 pm

I was informed that we are referring, here, to Toonder's Sttudio's Disney characters artwork in DD Weekblad-(not Toonder characters that also appeared in DD, such as Tom Poes. Maybe there's Klein bashing here, now?!!! When I took the side to defend Toonder, stating that Panda, Tom Poes and Douwe Dabbert are classic great art, I was informed that this thread was only referring to the Disney characters drawn by Toonder. So, now that I understand the thread and take the other side, I'm chastised for THAT!!! As Riley once stated, "It's a losin' fight!"
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Postby Ridder ter Geit » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:41 pm

I'm sorry, I didn't notice that!
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Postby Stephan » Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:29 pm

I'm not a Voges-basher, I just don't like his disney-art. And I give arguments why I think so.
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Postby Rockerduck » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:44 pm

Egg wrote:No worse? Run-off-the-mill? Marten Toonder is a Dutch legend with a high quality standard

But Marten Toonder himself wasn't involved with all the Disney-work (Big Bad Wolf, Hiawatha) and the Tom Poes stories for the Duck weekly.
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Postby Egg » Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:00 pm

Robb_K wrote:Maybe there's Klein bashing here, now?!!!

No. Don't worry. The crowd is too busy with Egg bashing already. :)
What I complain about is that I don't get comments about what exactly is wrong. Is it the inking? Is it the Toonder-ish Disney style?

Rockerduck wrote:But Marten Toonder himself wasn't involved with all the Disney-work (Big Bad Wolf, Hiawatha) and the Tom Poes stories for the Duck weekly.

What do you know? Do you have sources or is it just a guess?

The Hiawatha-art was a clear example of Toonder Studio artwork. But I guess the art of Tom Poes comics could by the Studio as well.
Even though Marten Toonder possibly hasn't drawn himself for Donald Duck weekly, the art looks very much like his style. The overall product seems to have a high quality standard, worthy to Marten Toonder.

In recent years we have Comicup. Some people bash that studio, while I think the Comicup art is very well done in a lot of stories. Since Comicup studio I often enjoy the Wolf- and the Hiawatha-stories again, as was the case with the ones by Toonder Studio. Often I read the Comicup-stories first.
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Postby Rockerduck » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:22 pm

Egg wrote:What do you know? Do you have sources or is it just a guess?

Maybe you should read some more. Or open up a copy of Stripschrift. Very informative.
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Postby Egg » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:40 pm

I'm too busy stalking you.
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Postby copycat » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:21 pm

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2006-09-05, Joao wrote:

Hi everybody:
As this is a NL forum, perhaps you can answer the following to me:

I recently bought a Carol Voges Donald Duck Original - this one -
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Can anyone, please, tell me to wich story does it belong, and if possible where can I buy the book where it was published?

Thank you very much.

Joao

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2006-09-05, Joao wrote:

Hi again:
I forgot to tell that the story was published arround 1970's (I think!).
Thankx.
Joao

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http://bb.mcdrake.nl/engdisney/viewtopic.php?p=1488#p1488
http://bb.mcdrake.nl/engdisney/viewtopic.php?p=1489#p1489

*EDIT* boardlinking updated to McDrake
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