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No, Daniel, Bernado's Mickey-stories don't make me silent in admiration. I strongly dislike them. First of all, his Goofy looks to much as the Goofy you see on the Disney-merchandising, on the sweaters and mugs and whatever. The kind that always seems to be put in advertisements in Disney-comics, just like there are some Donald-images which are used over and over again each time, and placed in an advertisement about new comics books. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. The 'standard' Goofy, the Goofy that looks as if he's pulled right out of the computer. Much too slick, much too cartoony.

His Mickey and Minnie are beareable, at most. But also they often look to cartoony. And the other characters, the extra's, look rather odd. I often get a headache when looking at his pages. But I'll give him one thing: his Mickey-comics aren't as terrible as his Duck-comics.

Let's just say this about Bernado: he's good at drawing Madam Mim, nothing more, nothing less.

WB wrote:

Mickey Mouse stories have a bad history of being tainted in the earlier days both in the states and overseas of bad writing and bad art, but its almost universally agreed upon that Gottfredson and ealy Scarpa are the best Mickey scribes around with nary a clunker in the bunch. So rather than all the duck talk I thought I'd ask:

What in your opinion makes for a GOOD Mouse story? What are the BEST of the BEST. And what do you think is the best Mouse story that you have ever read (that almost or does reach Barksian heights)? What do you think is bar-none the absolute WORST and is detrimental to crafting a Mouse story that leaves you both wowed and floored at the same time?

I think the best Mouse stories were mainly by Gottfredson, but many of the early Scarpa stories also were great.  They were mysteries with a lot of suspense.  Sure, it would have been better if Mickey could have been a more well-rounded character, but that problem was overshadowed by the great storywriting by Bill Walsh and Merrill De Meris, the great artwork by Gottfredson, Bill Wright and the '30s-'40s gang, and also the use of great villains, and the wonderful comedic relief from Goofy.  Most of the newer Mickey stories don't pull together all those great elements (to my taste).

H.H.F. wrote:

The Copy-Cat Crimes (D D 2002-006 ) by Ferioli/Erickson is IMO good example of entertaining new Mickey-stories. Detective Casey hating Mickey's guts,  good stuff.

Casey hating Mickey? Since when?

... at least I've always interpreted it as hate, or jealousness. In  any case Casey don't like the rodent. :-P

Well, to be honest, I find this "new-Mickey" absolutely disgusting. Ferioli, Bernado et al are worst of the worst. Ferioli draws e.g. Mickey´s hands like he is suffering from some terrible disease causing them to blow out of proportions. The plots seem to best aimed at inmates of lunatic asylums or little kids who enjoy the utterly bad stuff like Ducktales.

The best Mickey stuff was done by Paul Murry (the best of the best), Scarpa, Massimo de Vita and Giovan Battista Carpi.

Someone mentioned Erickson/Cavazzano´s Dragonlords. When I first saw that, my first thought was how on earth has Disney sunk so low? Cavazzano´s isn´t no longer the master he used to be 15-20 yrs and Byron Erickson is a complete failure as a writer. I don´t know whom to thank but it shines a bit hope to know there are writers like Frank Jonker to compensate for the incredible awful writers like McGreals and Erickson.

Rockerduck wrote:

Also, I was very pleased to read the Dragonlords-story (although that's reakky off-topic, by the way).

New topic: World of the Dragonlords

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pasoleati wrote:

And Gottfredson´s a master? A master of drooling idiocy, tops.

Oh, I see, you're just a troll, trying to stir up conflict.

Let me tell you that what I said about Gottfredson is not only my personal opinion, but an opinion that is widely shared by millions of Disney-fans. When you look at his stories, you can see how much he has done for Mickey. He adapted this cartoon character to the world of comics, and he created legendary characters like the Phantom Blot, and Sylvester Shyster, Mickey's best enemy in my opinion.

In Murry's stories, Mickey is far away from these roots. He's a boring detective that has to solve dull cases because the Mouseton police is too incompetent. Gone is the fantasy that was present in Gottfredson's stories, gone is the excitement in Mickey's comics. Be prepared to fall asleep after page 1.

Ferioli brings back the Gottfredson-Micke, who is *not* behaving like a "gangsta brother".

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25-08-2006, 04:54:39, Duckster

My first post.....Ummm

To matter of Gottfredson, I've just discover him because you don't see his work in AKU ANKKA much and those large books from 70s are very expensive. But those stories that I've read are superb! His talent as artist and a storyteller is ashtonising. A lot more than just "funny animal". Especially "Mickey Mouse on Secret Mission", that I recently found from Internet is just...just. The feeling of great threat mixed up with one of the funniest humor bits in comic strip's history is just...just, well read it! I just bought "Mickey Mouse in Color" HC, but it's still in the mail. I hope it's satisfy my hunger...for a while.

Grew up with Murry, what can I say. They reprinted a lot his stuff in AKU ANKKA in late 80s/early 90s.
My first ever drawings were copied from Barks's Ducks and Murry's Mouse.

As for modern Mickey, if they even use half the effort to stories, as to art, things would be better.

Ooohh! Hi there, pasoleati! Long time no see!
Don't be too harsh on him you guys, he's much nicer than you think.

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25-08-2006, 05:02:23, Duckster

My first post onto wrong thread! It's mentioned to be on that Mickey Mouse-thread!
Sorry guys!

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