Koen schreef:Oké. De site is trouwens erg mooi!
Koen schreef:Nee, nog niet. Dat kan ik niet, aangezien er nog niets opstaat. Tot nu toe heb ik dus alleen maar positief commentaar.
Maarten schreef:Volgens mij denkt ook Rosa dat Donald bij zijn oma is opgevoed.
Don Rosa schreef:I've been seeing some "Donald as a youth" stories in the Egmont comics [...] I can't read the stories, but I think I'd like 'em -- the art seems to be depicting a timeless small-town period which, to *my* eyes, looks very early-1930's-ish, which would be when I'd want to see stories of DD's youth take place. It looks like they are doing it as I do with my stories where I set them in the 1950's, showing nothing beyond 1950's technology, but still just letting the readers decide for themselves when they want the story to take place.
Those of you who can read them -- what reason do they give for DD living with his Grandma? My attitude to the several old (Strobl, I think) stories that show this is the simple explanation that DD spends the summers or other holidays on the grandparents' farm, which is how it was with many American kids in the early-mid 20th Century.
Don Rosa schreef:I can't read the comics that I receive with the "Donny Duck" (so you called it) stories of Donald living on Grandma Duck's farm, so I don't know what reasons are given, if any, in the storyline to explain why he's not with his own parents. Egmont tells me that these stories make it clear that young Donald *permanently* lives on the farm and that his parents are obviously (to the readers) dead and gone. Izzat true?
But regardless of where his parents are when he grew up, where have they been for the past 10-20 years of his adulthood if they are still alive somewhere? If they live in another town, why haven't we ever seen them visit their family in Duckburg in even one instance in the past 37,579 Duck stories published worldwide? Even if they didn't want to associate with $crooge, why couldn't they have avoided him and visited with others? These are the questions that I would need to answer in any story in which I reintroduced Hortense McDuck. I don't know if I want to try anything so tricky.
My idea that she (and Matilda) had been living at Castle McDuck for many years could have simply not mentioned what happened to their husbands, and we could assume at least those two are "deceased" in unspoken terms. But at first Egmont refused to allow me to even use Matilda until I argued for at least her being there... she doesn't have children in Duckburg. But Egmont still said that if Hortense was alive, she would have appeared in comics long before now.
Koen schreef:Die fout over Fort Duckburg staat er nog steeds in, onder het vierde plaatje.
Maarten schreef:Ui schreef:Waarom zou Matilda driftiger zijn dan Hortensia? Waarom deelt Matilda wel een klap uit met een borstel, terwijl de driftige Hortensia dat niet zou doen?
Als Hortense gebruikt werd in het verhaal, zou er denk niet eens geslagen zijn
Maarten schreef:Ui schreef:Omdat het personage is afgekeurd, beschouwt Rosa het als dood? Dat zal vast niet.
Nja ik denk van wel. Hij wist dat hij de oude volwassen Hortense nooit zou mogen gebruiken. Dus ik denk dat hij Hortense wel als dood beschouwt, dat heb ik vooral uit de manier hoe Donald over zijn moeder praat. Zeker weten doe ik het natuurlijk niet.
Maarten schreef:Ui schreef:De topictitel is op zich redelijk duidelijk, maar in het eerste bericht wordt "Donaldisme volgens Rosa" gaandeweg afgekort naar "Donaldisme".
Is RosaÎsme een betere titel voor het topic? Wat vindt men?
Euhm ja misschien is het wel duidelijk, of andere McDrakers willen de titel per sé veranderden.
Ui schreef:DCML is een mailing list waar Don Rosa vroeger actief was, [...] Enkele jaren geleden was hij actief op het Italiaanse forum 'Il forum del Papersera'.
Maarten schreef:Ja dat weet ik, maar ik zou graag het stuk willen lezen over de zogenaamde zoogdier-eenden.
Maarten schreef:Ui schreef:Donald Duck is geen gewone eend, maar een Disney-eend.
Nee, geen gewone eend. Donald Duck is een antropomorfisme (van menselijke gedaante).
Don Rosa schreef:I've been seeing some "Donald as a youth" stories in the Egmont comics [...] I can't read the stories, but I think I'd like 'em
Don Rosa schreef:-- the art seems to be depicting a timeless small-town period which, to *my* eyes, looks very early-1930's-ish, which would be when I'd want to see stories of DD's youth take place. It looks like they are doing it as I do with my stories where I set them in the 1950's, showing nothing beyond 1950's technology, but still just letting the readers decide for themselves when they want the story to take place.
Don Rosa schreef:Those of you who can read them -- what reason do they give for DD living with his Grandma? My attitude to the several old (Strobl, I think) stories that show this is the simple explanation that DD spends the summers or other holidays on the grandparents' farm, which is how it was with many American kids in the early-mid 20th Century.
Don Rosa schreef:I can't read the comics that I receive with the "Donny Duck" (so you called it) stories of Donald living on Grandma Duck's farm, so I don't know what reasons are given, if any, in the storyline to explain why he's not with his own parents. Egmont tells me that these stories make it clear that young Donald *permanently* lives on the farm and that his parents are obviously (to the readers) dead and gone. Izzat true?
Don Rosa schreef:But regardless of where his parents are when he grew up, where have they been for the past 10-20 years of his adulthood if they are still alive somewhere? If they live in another town, why haven't we ever seen them visit their family in Duckburg in even one instance in the past 37,579 Duck stories published worldwide? Even if they didn't want to associate with $crooge, why couldn't they have avoided him and visited with others? These are the questions that I would need to answer in any story in which I reintroduced Hortense McDuck. I don't know if I want to try anything so tricky.
Don Rosa schreef:My idea that she (and Matilda) had been living at Castle McDuck for many years could have simply not mentioned what happened to their husbands, and we could assume at least those two are "deceased" in unspoken terms. But at first Egmont refused to allow me to even use Matilda until I argued for at least her being there... she doesn't have children in Duckburg. But Egmont still said that if Hortense was alive, she would have appeared in comics long before now.
Maarten schreef:Harstikke bedankt Michiel! Don Rosa denkt dus niet dat Donald opgroeide bij zijn oma. Want wat zou daar de reden van moeten zijn?
Maarten schreef:Donald Duck is een antropomorfisme (van menselijke gedaante).
Ui schreef:Rosa laat niets nieuwers zien dan techniek uit de jaren '50, maarrr... hij is "still just letting the readers decide for themselves when they want the story to take place". Gelooft hij het zelf?
Don Rosa schreef:We could assume at least those two are "deceased" in unspoken terms.
Oom Paspasu schreef:Ui schreef:Rosa laat niets nieuwers zien dan techniek uit de jaren '50, maarrr... hij is "still just letting the readers decide for themselves when they want the story to take place". Gelooft hij het zelf?
Het ligt er niet heel dik bovenop dat het in de jaren vijftig afspeelt. De Nederlandse redactie denkt dat kinderen oude verhalen niet meer snappen omdat er toen nog geen mobieltjes waren, maar ik denk dat dat best meevalt. Ik had vroeger nooit ...
Oom Paspasu schreef:Ik had vroeger nooit het idee dat Rosa's verhalen niet in onze tijd spelen. Wij hadden ook een oude zwartwit-tv en van Donald verwacht je toch ook niet dat hij de nieuwste dingen kan betalen.
Oom Paspasu schreef:Alleen het einde van Lo$ bracht me in verwarring, vanwege de vastgestelde tijdlijn.
Oom Paspasu schreef:Don Rosa schreef:We could assume at least those two are "deceased" in unspoken terms.
Dit is een logisch gevolg van het plaatsen van de levens van de personages langs een tijdlijn.
Oom Paspasu schreef:Alleen het einde van Lo$ bracht me in verwarring, vanwege de vastgestelde tijdlijn.
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